While I love BJ's journals, it is nice to get the others' take on them as well.
BTW, I came across this article that I thought you might be interested in. You may even be able to use it--maybe Brian could comment on it in passing. I'd use it myself--and still may--but right now my muse is still as pissed about the series ending as I am, so my writing is on hold. Of course hectic Rl has a lot to do with it also. :(
Ad Guru Resigns Over Comments About Women Tampa Tribune ^ | October 23, 2005 | JILL LAWLESS , AP
Posted on 10/23/2005 2:48:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
LONDON (AP) -- One of the world's most flamboyant advertising gurus has left his job after reportedly telling an audience that women made poor executives because motherhood made them "wimp out."
Marketing giant WPP Group PLC said Friday it had accepted the resignation of Neil French - a one-time debt collector, trainee matador and rock-band agent who served as the group's worldwide creative director. The firm, which is based in London and New York, told Britain's Press Association news agency that French had offered his resignation, and it had been accepted. WPP could not immediately be reached for comment by The Associated Press. French made the contentious remarks during an industry discussion in Toronto on Oct. 6. According to a report in the city's Globe and Mail newspaper, French said women did not make it to the top because "they're crap." Nancy Vonk, a Toronto-based creative director at WPP subsidiary Ogilvy & Mather who attended the event, said French described women as "a group that will inevitably wimp out and go 'suckle something.'" he comments sparked outrage among many women in the advertising industry. Vonk wrote on the advertising industry Web site http://www.ihaveanidea.org - sponsor of the Oct. 6 event - that "my jaded jaw hit the floor" at French's comments. "If our greatest leaders are busy quietly persuading girls they're just not cut out for this gig, how far is this group going to get - the brave ones who soldier on in spite of the discouragement?" she wrote. British-born French, 61, known for his ever-present cigar, worked as a debt collector, trained as a matador and was agent to the heavy metal band Judas Priest before going into advertising. He was among a generation of innovative admen - including future film director Ridley Scott and brothers Maurice and Charles Saatchi - who made a mark on British advertising in the 1970s and 80s. Many of French's print ads are considered classics. One of the most famous shows a bottle of Chivas Regal whisky without a label, and the tag line, "If you don't recognize it, you're probably not ready for it." Singapore-based French - who during the Toronto event was served drinks onstage by a woman in a French maid's uniform - was unrepentant. In an interview with the Globe and Mail published Friday, French said there were few female creative directors "because you can't commit yourself to the job." "You can't be a great creative director and have a baby and keep spending time off every time your kids are ill," he was quoted as saying.
OMG. What an ass. Thanks for sharing it, it's a reminder to make sure I send in a nice donation to NOW if nothing else, lol. I may make a reference to this event in a fic. It's just too good to pass on.
What's even more sickening is the people who support this. As a big ol liberal, I'm a regular at Democratic Undergournd--a liberal democratic web site. Someone had posted this article there. He/She got it from Free Republic, a right wing site. And of course everyone there were posting emails of support. Disgusting emails of support. :( I figured I'd spare everyone that.
As for a fic reference--if not Brian, maybe Cynthia? lol
Oh, Em! You fabulous fairy! :D This was really fun! I bet I know what Brian gave Justin. I bet he liked it a lot despite getting it almost every day. ;)
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~NEbU~
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*dies*
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This series is fabulous!
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I don't blame Justin in the least! LOL
I love Emmett's chatty, gossipy journal. He never leaves anything out and I can be such a gossip monger.
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Hot in a muppet kind of way!!! Thank you, that's exactly what I think too!! Bwaahaa!!
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And, Ted giving Justin the Amazon gift certificate, LOL!
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I can just hear Emmett saying every single word.
... so what did Brian give him...? Hehe.
And I'm totally with Justin on the Michael/Ben sex issues... although when I factor in the whole muppet factor, I get visions of Avenue Q, haha.
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BTW, I came across this article that I thought you might be interested in. You may even be able to use it--maybe Brian could comment on it in passing. I'd use it myself--and still may--but right now my muse is still as pissed about the series ending as I am, so my writing is on hold. Of course hectic Rl has a lot to do with it also. :(
Ad Guru Resigns Over Comments About Women
Tampa Tribune ^ | October 23, 2005 | JILL LAWLESS , AP
Posted on 10/23/2005 2:48:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
LONDON (AP) -- One of the world's most flamboyant advertising gurus has left his job after reportedly telling an audience that women made poor executives because motherhood made them "wimp out."
Marketing giant WPP Group PLC said Friday it had accepted the resignation of Neil French - a one-time debt collector, trainee matador and rock-band agent who served as the group's worldwide creative director. The firm, which is based in London and New York, told Britain's Press Association news agency that French had offered his resignation, and it had been accepted. WPP could not immediately be reached for comment by The Associated Press.
French made the contentious remarks during an industry discussion in Toronto on Oct. 6. According to a report in the city's Globe and Mail newspaper, French said women did not make it to the top because "they're crap."
Nancy Vonk, a Toronto-based creative director at WPP subsidiary Ogilvy & Mather who attended the event, said French described women as "a group that will inevitably wimp out and go 'suckle something.'"
he comments sparked outrage among many women in the advertising industry.
Vonk wrote on the advertising industry Web site http://www.ihaveanidea.org - sponsor of the Oct. 6 event - that "my jaded jaw hit the floor" at French's comments.
"If our greatest leaders are busy quietly persuading girls they're just not cut out for this gig, how far is this group going to get - the brave ones who soldier on in spite of the discouragement?" she wrote.
British-born French, 61, known for his ever-present cigar, worked as a debt collector, trained as a matador and was agent to the heavy metal band Judas Priest before going into advertising.
He was among a generation of innovative admen - including future film director Ridley Scott and brothers Maurice and Charles Saatchi - who made a mark on British advertising in the 1970s and 80s.
Many of French's print ads are considered classics. One of the most famous shows a bottle of Chivas Regal whisky without a label, and the tag line, "If you don't recognize it, you're probably not ready for it."
Singapore-based French - who during the Toronto event was served drinks onstage by a woman in a French maid's uniform - was unrepentant.
In an interview with the Globe and Mail published Friday, French said there were few female creative directors "because you can't commit yourself to the job."
"You can't be a great creative director and have a baby and keep spending time off every time your kids are ill," he was quoted as saying.
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Thanks :)
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What's even more sickening is the people who support this. As a big ol liberal, I'm a regular at Democratic Undergournd--a liberal democratic web site. Someone had posted this article there. He/She got it from Free Republic, a right wing site. And of course everyone there were posting emails of support. Disgusting emails of support. :( I figured I'd spare everyone that.
As for a fic reference--if not Brian, maybe Cynthia? lol
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I love this series! :D
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